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In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Tom Krause—trailblazer in behavior-based safety and co-founder of BST (now part of DEKRA) and the Krause Bell Group—to talk about how safety leadership has evolved over time. Dr. Krause walks us through his path from clinical psychology into safety innovation, emphasizing how behavior is shaped by context and why simply blaming employees misses the mark.

We dive into the ongoing influence of Deming’s philosophy, where Heinrich’s model falls short, and the complex cultural barriers companies face in building safer systems. Dr. Krause also explains the often-overlooked role of decision-making processes in preventing serious workplace incidents. You’ll get a behind-the-scenes look at his work with NASA after the Columbia disaster and hear why leadership support and open communication channels are essential to safety success.

Whether you’re responsible for safety, lead operations, or care about making the workplace better, this episode offers powerful insights from years of experience and research.

🎧 Press play to rethink old models, discover fresh strategies, and explore what real safety leadership looks like today.